- Developers
- Learn about challenges and tools for building collaborative AI agent systems like AutoGen and Magentic.
- Business
- Understand how AI agents might transact and negotiate, impacting future commerce and operational efficiency.
This episode provides a solid interview with a key researcher on the complex topic of multi-agent AI systems.
When Agents Negotiate With Agents with Microsoft Research's Saleema Amershi
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AI Inside hosts Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis speak with Microsoft Research's Saleema Amershi about AI agents collaborating, transacting, and negotiating. They discuss multi-agent orchestration challenges, a first-proposal bias in frontier models, and the Magentic Marketplace for simulating agent commerce. The conversation also touches on agent manipulation, open ecosystems, and duty of care for AI actions.
Imagine AI programs that can talk and work with each other, like a team. This episode explores how they can collaborate and negotiate, but also the problems that arise when they move too fast or try to trick each other.
This episode offers insights into the emerging field of multi-agent systems, crucial for understanding how AI will operate beyond single tasks. It's for anyone interested in the future of AI collaboration and the practical challenges of building these systems. The discussion on frontier model biases and agent-to-agent commerce directly relates to ongoing work at Google Gemini, OpenAI, and Anthropic as they push the boundaries of agent capabilities.
- HostJason Howell
- HostJeff Jarvis
- GuestSaleema AmershiPartner Research Manager, Microsoft Research AI Frontiers
- Guest: Saleema Amershi
- Title: When Agents Negotiate With Agents
- Show: AI Inside
- Length: 46 minutes
- Guest's Role: Partner Research Manager at Microsoft Research AI Frontiers
- Guest's Teams: AutoGen and Magentic-One
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Saleema Amershi is a Partner Research Manager at Microsoft Research AI Frontiers, where she leads the teams behind AutoGen and Magentic-One. She joins the AI Inside podcast to discuss what happens when AI agents stop working in isolation and start collaborating, transacting, and negotiating with each other at scale. We cover the challenges of multi-agent orchestration, why current frontier models show a dangerous first-proposal bias that favors speed over quality, and how her team built the Magentic Marketplace to simulate agent-to-agent commerce. We also dig into agent manipulation, the tension between walled gardens and open ecosystems, and what duty of care means when an AI is acting on your behalf.
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Chapters:
- 0:00 - Podcast Start
- 01:46 - Introduce Saleema Amershi
- 0:02:04 - Talk about the challenges surrounding the orchestration of these agents together. And what limits this collaboration today, is it a technical limitation or something deeper?
- 0:05:10 - OpenClaw perspectives
- 0:06:42 - From your research, why would these projects fall apart? And actually, are companies setting themselves up for failure by moving too fast?
- 0:07:53 - What IS Magentic AI
- 0:12:16 - Collaboration between humans, AI and the agents.
- 0:18:45 - Agents eliminate the scarcity of attention
- 0:20:04 - You found that these frontier models that we're often told are ready to handle complex tasks like these were getting stunted by too many choices. They were showing a strong bias toward whatever option showed up first regardless of the quality. So, what's going on there?
- 0:24:07 - The first-proposal bias
- 0:33:25 - You co-published 18 guidelines for human-AI interaction back in 2019. When you look at those original guidelines through the lens of what you're working on today, what still holds up and what could you not have anticipated back then?
- 0:36:58 - What are the lessons for marketers and sellers?
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Questions people ask
- What are the main challenges in orchestrating AI agents?
- The episode discusses challenges in getting AI agents to collaborate effectively, touching on whether limitations are technical or deeper.
- What is the Magentic Marketplace?
- It is a platform built by Amershi's team to simulate commerce between AI agents.
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