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This episode features a timely discussion with policy experts and forecasters on AI's near-term future and regulatory landscape.

AI 2025 → 2026 Live Show | Part 2

1 h 40 Interview Hosts: Nathan Labenz
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Summary

This 100-minute podcast episode, "AI 2025 \u2192 2026 Live Show | Part 2" on The Cognitive Revolution, features Nathan Labenz hosting rapid-fire conversations. Guests Alex Boris and Dean Ball discuss AI policy, including the RAISE Act and federal preemption. Peter Wildeford offers an outlook on AI agents, costs, and robotics for 2026.

Explained simply

This show talks about what AI might do next year and the rules people are making for it. It covers how AI could change jobs and what companies are doing to build safer AI.

Why listen

This episode offers insights into AI policy, emerging coalitions, and future AI trends like agents and robotics. It is for AI builders, policymakers, and anyone interested in the practical implications of AI development. The discussions on alignment, governance, and policy connect directly to the ongoing work and public discourse surrounding major AI labs like Google, OpenAI, and Anthropic as they navigate regulatory landscapes and technological advancements.

On the mic
  • HostNathan Labenz
  • GuestAlex BorisNew York Assemblymember
  • GuestDean BallFormer White House AI adviser
  • GuestPeter WildefordForecaster
About
Key facts
  • Episode Title: AI 2025 → 2026 Live Show | Part 2
  • Show: The Cognitive Revolution
  • Length: 100 minutes
  • Guest Topic 1: RAISE Act and AI risk mitigation
  • Guest Topic 2: AI coalitions, federal preemption, and coding agents
  • Guest Topic 3: 2026 outlook on agents, costs, and robotics
Show notes from Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz

This year-end live show features nine rapid-fire conversations to make sense of AI’s 2025 and what might define 2026. PSA for AI builders: Interested in alignment, governance, or AI safety? Learn more about the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship and submit your name to be notified when applications open: https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr. New York Assemblymember Alex Boris breaks down the RAISE Act's bid to curb catastrophic AI risks, the governor negotiations, and why a16z-backed ads are targeting him. Former White House AI adviser Dean Ball maps the emerging coalitions on AI, federal preemption, and what fast-improving coding agents could mean for policy and jobs. Forecaster Peter Wildeford debates selling vs "renting" chips to China and offers a 2026 outlook on agents, costs, and robotics. Recorded live as part of our AI 2025→2026 series (Part 2).



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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) Sponsor: Gemini 3 in Google AI Studio

(00:31) RAISE Act status

(04:52) Catastrophic risk focus

(10:47) Super PAC backlash

(16:17) Data centers and grid

(19:47) Palantir and surveillance

(23:42) Dean Ball joins (Part 1)

(23:46) Sponsors: MATS | Framer

(27:05) Dean Ball joins (Part 2)

(32:00) Social media lessons

(36:22) Trump preemption and chips (Part 1)

(40:51) Sponsors: Shopify | Tasklet

(43:59) Trump preemption and chips (Part 2)

(44:50) Structural US-China decoupling

(49:39) Peter on chip ban

(55:43) Threat model and renting

(01:02:55) Cost drops, revenue

(01:16:03) Forecasting paradigm shifts

(01:20:38) 2026 agents and robots

(01:31:41) Show wrap and markets

(01:42:28) Outro



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Jargon decoded
alignment
AI researchers
making AI do what humans intend
federal preemption
legal experts
when federal law overrides state law
coding agents
AI developers
AI that can write computer code
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The Cognitive Revolution · Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz
Length
1 h 40
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Questions people ask

What is the RAISE Act?
The RAISE Act is a legislative effort aimed at curbing catastrophic AI risks, with New York Assemblymember Alex Boris discussing its progress and negotiations.
What is the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship?
MATS offers a funded 12-week research program for rising talent in AI alignment, interpretability, security, and governance. Applications for the summer 2026 cohort will open soon.

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