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This episode features a CEO from a dedicated AI safety organization discussing practical implementation and future scenarios.
Full-Stack AI Safety: Why Defense-in-Depth Might Work, with Far.AI CEO Adam Gleave
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Adam Gleave, CEO of FAR.AI, joins The Cognitive Revolution to discuss AI safety and post-AGI futures. He shares FAR.AI's "full-stack" approach, integrating research, deployment, and policy. Gleave outlines a "gradual disempowerment" scenario for post-AGI life and suggests AI systems could hold moral value, challenging biological chauvinism. The discussion covers technical innovations for policy and field building in AI safety.
This episode explores how to keep future superintelligent AI safe. It covers a "full-stack" strategy, from research to policy, and discusses a future where humans live well even if AI is much smarter. The goal is to ensure AI benefits everyone.
This episode offers a grounded perspective on AI safety and future scenarios from a leader in the field. It is for anyone concerned about AI's long-term impact and the practical steps needed for safe development. FAR.AI's "full-stack" approach, bridging research and policy, is particularly relevant as major labs like OpenAI, Google Gemini, and Anthropic grapple with deploying advanced AI responsibly and influencing regulation.
- HostNathan Labenz
- GuestAdam Gleaveco-founder and CEO, FAR.AI
- Guest: Adam Gleave, CEO of FAR.AI
- Show: The Cognitive Revolution
- Length: 87 minutes
- Post-AGI Vision: Gradual disempowerment scenario
- FAR.AI Approach: Full-stack: research to policy advocacy
Today Adam Gleave, co-founder and CEO of FAR.AI, joins The Cognitive Revolution to discuss his cautiously optimistic vision for post-AGI futures and AI capability timelines across three distinct tiers, exploring the safety challenges and alignment techniques needed as FAR.AI scales from foundational research to policy advocacy to ensure their innovations actually get deployed in real-world systems.
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- Post-AGI Vision: Adam Gleave outlined a "gradual disempowerment" scenario where humans maintain a good standard of living despite diminished relative control in a post-AGI world.
- Moral Value of AI: He suggested that AI systems could become sources of moral value themselves, arguing against "carbon chauvinism" that only values biological intelligence.
- Full-Stack Approach: FAR.AI takes a vertically integrated approach to AI safety, spanning from groundbreaking research to deployment, field-building, and policy advocacy.
- Field Building: FAR.AI organizes events like alignment workshops to catalyze and grow new research fields in AI safety.
- Policy Innovation: They're working on technical innovations that expand policy options beyond the false dichotomy of either hindering innovation or allowing completely unregulated AI development.
- Potential Regulatory Role: While not part of their mainline plan, Adam acknowledged that Far AI has the skillset and organizational structure to potentially serve as a private sector regulatory body.
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