- Developers
- Learn about neuroevolution, an alternative to gradient-based AI training that fosters creativity and unexpected solutions.
- Business
- Discover how AI can evolve creatively to produce novel solutions, potentially impacting competitive advantages.
This episode features a leading researcher discussing an alternative AI development approach with real-world successes.
Why the Future of AI Isn't Just Bigger Models. It's Models That Evolve | Risto Miikkulainen of Cognizant
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Craig Smith hosts Eye on AI with Risto Miikkulainen to discuss neuroevolution, an AI development method that diverges from traditional gradient-based learning. Unlike step-by-step improvement, neuroevolution uses simultaneous competing solutions that recombine, mimicking biological evolution to foster creativity and unexpected outcomes. The conversation explores real-world applications and the potential of this approach.
Imagine AI learning like a plant growing, not just following a recipe. This method lets many AI ideas compete and combine, leading to unexpected, creative solutions. It's a different way to build smarter AI.
This episode offers a deep dive into neuroevolution, a powerful alternative to current AI model training. It's for researchers and developers interested in fostering AI creativity and finding novel solutions. Miikkulainen's long history in the field provides historical context. The discussion of unexpected successes, like the stock trading AI and the pandemic decision system, highlights how this approach can yield breakthroughs, potentially influencing how frontier labs like Google Gemini and OpenAI explore new model architectures beyond just scaling.
- HostCraig S. Smith
- GuestRisto MiikkulainenVP of AI Research, Cognizant AI Labs
- Guest: Risto Miikkulainen, VP of AI Research at Cognizant AI Labs
- Title: Why the Future of AI Isn't Just Bigger Models. It's Models That Evolve
- Show: Eye on AI
- Length: 64 minutes
- Neuroevolution: Runs hundreds or thousands of competing solutions simultaneously, letting the best ones recombine.
- Neuroevolution outcome: Creativity: solutions no human designer would have anticipated.
Most AI systems follow a gradient, a mathematical slope that tells them exactly how to improve, step by step, toward a known goal. Neuroevolution doesn't follow any gradient. Instead, it runs hundreds or thousands of competing solutions simultaneously, spreads them across the space of possibilities as broadly as possible, and lets the best ones recombine, the same logic that drives biological evolution. The result, as Risto Miikkulainen explains to Craig Smith, is creativity: solutions that no human designer would have anticipated, that emerge routinely from the evolutionary process.
Miikkulainen is a professor at UT Austin and VP of AI Research at Cognizant AI Labs, and he has been working on this field since the 1980s, which makes him both a historian of it and one of its most active frontiersmen.
The conversation covers a remarkable range: a mystery model that outperformed every competitor in a recent stock trading competition with forensic footprints pointing to neuroevolutionary AI; Sakana AI's system that autonomously designed experiments, wrote a paper, and had it accepted at a major machine learning conference; and a pandemic decision system that trained overnight and made country-specific recommendations by morning, with Iceland actually following some of them, all the way to the prime minister.
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- a mathematical slope that tells AI how to improve step by step toward a known goal
- neuroevolution
- Risto Miikkulainen
- an AI development method that uses competing solutions and recombination, mimicking biological evolution
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Questions people ask
- What is neuroevolution?
- Neuroevolution is an AI development method that runs many competing solutions simultaneously, letting the best ones recombine, similar to biological evolution, rather than following a mathematical gradient.
- What are examples of neuroevolution in action?
- Examples include a mystery model that won a stock trading competition, a system that autonomously designed experiments and wrote a paper, and a pandemic decision system that made country-specific recommendations.
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