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Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Ep 12 Episode Official · Google

Gemini 2.0 and the Evolution of Agentic AI with Oriol Vinyals

49 min Interview Hosts: Hannah Fry
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Summary

Google DeepMind's podcast features Oriol Vinyals, Gemini co-lead, discussing the evolution of AI agents from single-task to general-purpose models like Gemini. Vinyals explains the two-stage training process: pre-training via imitation learning and post-training via reinforcement learning. The episode also covers scaling complexities, architectural innovation, and new agentic capabilities released by Google DeepMind.

Explained simply

This episode explains how AI like Gemini learns, first by copying and then by practicing to get better. It covers how these AI systems are becoming smarter and can do more things, which could lead to helpful new tools for everyone.

Why listen

This episode offers insight into how advanced AI models like Gemini are built, moving from simple imitation to complex learning. It's for anyone interested in the technical underpinnings of modern AI and how labs are pushing towards more capable, general AI systems. The discussion on two-stage training and architectural innovation directly relates to current efforts across frontier labs to create more powerful and versatile AI.

On the mic
  • HostHannah Fry
  • GuestOriol VinyalsVP of Drastic Research and Gemini co-lead, Google DeepMind
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Key facts
  • Episode Title: Gemini 2.0 and the Evolution of Agentic AI with Oriol Vinyals
  • Show: Google DeepMind: The Podcast
  • Length: 49 minutes
  • Guest: Oriol Vinyals, VP of Drastic Research and Gemini co-lead
  • Training Process: Two-step: pre-training (imitation learning) and post-training (reinforcement learning)
Show notes from Hannah Fry

In this episode, Hannah is joined by Oriol Vinyals, VP of Drastic Research and Gemini co-lead. They discuss the evolution of agents from single-task models to more general-purpose models capable of broader applications, like Gemini. Vinyals guides Hannah through the two-step process behind multi modal models: pre-training (imitation learning) and post-training (reinforcement learning). They discuss the complexities of scaling and the importance of innovation in architecture and training processes. They close on a quick whirlwind tour of some of the new agentic capabilities recently released by Google DeepMind. 

Note: To see all of the full length demos, including unedited versions, and other videos related to Gemini 2.0 head to YouTube.

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Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry

Series Producer: Dan Hardoon

Editor: Rami Tzabar, TellTale Studios 

Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif

Music composition: Eleni Shaw

Camera Director and Video Editor: Bernardo Resende

Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin

Video Studio Production: Nicholas Duke

Video Editor: Bilal Merhi

Video Production Design: James Barton

Visual Identity and Design: Eleanor Tomlinson

Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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Jargon decoded
Agentic AI
Oriol Vinyals
AI that can act and make decisions on its own to achieve goals.
Multimodal models
Oriol Vinyals
AI that can understand and process information from different types of data, like text, images, and sound.
Imitation learning
Oriol Vinyals
Teaching AI by showing it examples of how to perform a task.
Reinforcement learning
Oriol Vinyals
Teaching AI by letting it try things and rewarding it for good outcomes.
Published
Show
Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Hannah Fry
Length
49 min
Companies
Google
Products
Gemini
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Questions people ask

What is the two-step process for training multimodal models?
The process involves pre-training using imitation learning and post-training using reinforcement learning.
Where can I see full-length demos of Gemini 2.0?
Full-length and unedited demos of Gemini 2.0 are available on YouTube.

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