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Features a leading researcher discussing novel interdisciplinary approaches to AI development beyond current scaling paradigms.

Why the Next AI Breakthrough May Come from Physics with Max Welling - #774

58 min Interview Hosts: Sam Charrington
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Summary

Max Welling, co-founder of CuspAI, joins The TWIML AI Podcast to discuss how physics principles could drive the next AI breakthroughs. He explains CuspAI's work using generative AI for material discovery and explores connections between machine learning, thermodynamics, and new computational primitives like waves for AI architectures.

Explained simply

This episode explores how ideas from physics, like thermodynamics and waves, could help build better AI. It discusses using AI to discover new materials for batteries and clean energy, potentially speeding up scientific progress.

Why listen

This episode offers a fresh perspective on AI's future, moving beyond the typical focus on compute and data. It's for researchers and AI enthusiasts interested in interdisciplinary approaches. Welling's insights into using physics for AI design could inform how frontier labs like Google Gemini and Anthropic explore novel architectures and accelerate scientific discovery, potentially leading to more efficient and capable AI systems.

On the mic
  • HostSam Charrington
  • GuestMax Wellingco-founder and CTO, CuspAI
About
Key facts
  • Guest: Max Welling, co-founder and CTO of CuspAI and professor at the University of Amsterdam
  • Episode Title: Why the Next AI Breakthrough May Come from Physics
  • Show: The TWIML AI Podcast
  • Length: 58 minutes
  • CuspAI Application: Using generative AI to design new materials for semiconductors, batteries, carbon capture, and clean energy
Show notes from Sam Charrington

The conventional wisdom in AI is that the next breakthrough will come from more compute, more data, and larger models. But what if the next leap comes from somewhere else? In this episode, Max Welling—co-founder and CTO of CuspAI and professor at the University of Amsterdam—argues that physics may provide some of the ideas behind the next generation of AI systems. We begin with CuspAI’s work using generative AI to design entirely new materials for semiconductors, batteries, carbon capture, and clean energy. Max explains how foundation models for chemistry, agentic workflows, simulation, and automated experimentation are dramatically accelerating the search for new materials and reshaping scientific discovery. The conversation then broadens into a deeper question. Beyond giving AI new scientific problems to solve, can physics also teach us how to build better AI? Max explores surprising connections between machine learning and thermodynamics, why waves may become a new computational primitive for neural networks, and how concepts like symmetry breaking and statistical physics could inspire AI architectures beyond today’s scaling paradigm. 🗒️ Full show notes: https://twimlai.com/go/774.

Jargon decoded
generative AI
Max Welling
AI that can create new content, like text, images, or in this case, material designs.
foundation models
Max Welling
Large AI models trained on vast amounts of data that can be adapted for many tasks.
agentic workflows
Max Welling
AI systems that can plan and execute tasks autonomously.
thermodynamics
Max Welling
The branch of physics dealing with heat, work, and energy.
Published
Show
The TWIML AI Podcast · Sam Charrington
Length
58 min
Companies
Google, Anthropic
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Questions people ask

What is CuspAI's focus?
CuspAI uses generative AI to design new materials for semiconductors, batteries, carbon capture, and clean energy.
How might physics inspire future AI?
Physics concepts like thermodynamics, symmetry breaking, and waves could inspire new AI architectures beyond current scaling methods.

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