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Anthropic's Labs Lead On Fable's Capabilities + Building AI-Native Products — With Mike Krieger
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Mike Krieger, head of Anthropic Labs and Instagram co-founder, discusses working with Anthropic's frontier models like Fable and Mythos on the Big Technology Podcast. He shares insights into building AI-native products, Anthropic's safety approach, and the company's dual role as a platform and product provider, especially after recent government actions.
Mike Krieger talks about using powerful new AI tools at Anthropic. He explains how these tools help build new products faster and discusses Anthropic's focus on safety, even when facing government scrutiny.
This episode offers a rare look inside Anthropic from a key leader. Krieger explains how advanced AI models change product development and discusses the company's unique position in the market. It's valuable for anyone interested in the practical application of frontier AI, product strategy, and the challenges faced by leading AI labs navigating regulation and competition.
- HostAlex Kantrowitz
- GuestMike KriegerHead of Anthropic Labs, Anthropic
- GuestLauren GoodeSenior Correspondent, Wired
- Guest: Mike Krieger, Head of Anthropic Labs and co-founder of Instagram
- Show: Big Technology Podcast
- Length: 43 minutes
- Models Discussed: Fable and Mythos
- Co-interviewer: Lauren Goode, Wired senior correspondent
Mike Krieger is the head of Anthropic Labs and co-founder of Instagram. Krieger joins Big Technology Podcast live from the Big Technology AI Summit to discuss what it's like inside Anthropic the week the government forced the company to pull its frontier models, Fable and Mythos, off the market. Tune in to hear Krieger describe how working with Fable changed the way he builds — queuing up a full night of work before bed and waking to find it finished in an hour — why he insists Anthropic's safety warnings are material rather than marketing, and how Anthropic navigates being both a platform and a product as it competes with the companies building on top of it. Wired senior correspondent Lauren Goode joins as a co-interviewer. Hit play for a rare look inside the lab from the person building Anthropic's next breakout product.
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Questions people ask
- What is Fable and Mythos?
- Fable and Mythos are frontier AI models developed by Anthropic. The company was recently compelled by the government to pull them off the market.
- How does Krieger view Anthropic's safety warnings?
- Krieger insists that Anthropic's safety warnings are material information rather than marketing tactics.
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