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A Positive Vision for the Future: Part 2 with Illia Polosukhin of NEAR
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In this Google podcast episode, Nathan Labenz talks with Illia Polosukhin, co-author of "Attention Is All You Need" and founder of NEAR Protocol. They discuss AI's societal and economic impacts, envisioning a unified intelligence layer, AI agents connecting markets directly, and individuals finding meaning in AI-driven abundance. The conversation also covers agent ethics and AI-assisted governance.
Imagine AI creating a smart layer for all computers, letting AI helpers directly connect you to services. This could lead to more free time and new ways to find community as AI handles many tasks.
This episode offers a concrete, systems-level vision for AI's future. Listeners will learn how AI might reshape personal computing, markets, and governance. It is for anyone interested in the long-term societal implications of AI. The discussion on AI agents and governance models connects to current work at Google Gemini and Microsoft Copilot, exploring how AI can be integrated into complex systems and decision-making processes.
- HostNathan Labenz
- GuestIllia Polosukhinfounder, NEAR Protocol
- Guest: Illia Polosukhin
- Title: A Positive Vision for the Future: Part 2 with Illia Polosukhin of NEAR
- Show: The Cognitive Revolution
- Length: 88 minutes
- Guest Role: Co-author of "Attention Is All You Need" and founder of NEAR Protocol
In part two of his conversation, Illia Polosukhin, co-author of "Attention Is All You Need" and founder of NEAR Protocol, explores the profound societal and economic implications of AI. He envisions a future where a unified intelligence layer transforms personal computing, AI agents enable direct market connections, and individuals find meaning in niche communities amidst AI-driven abundance. Illia also delves into the ethics of agent-to-agent interactions, where AIs prioritize human interests, and new governance models utilizing AI delegates. This episode offers a concrete, systems-level vision for how AI will reshape our world, from daily life to global governance.
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Sponsor: Google Gemini Notebook LM
(00:31) About the Episode
(03:33) AI Transforms Software Development
(14:18) The Future of Work
(18:58) Securing Blockchain with AI (Part 1)
(19:08) Sponsors: Tasklet | Linear
(21:48) Securing Blockchain with AI (Part 2)
(33:03) Vision for an AI Society (Part 1)
(33:55) Sponsor: Shopify
(35:52) Vision for an AI Society (Part 2)
(49:14) Agent Architecture and Alignment
(58:30) Experimenting with AI Governance
(01:06:43) AI Safety and Robustness
(01:16:09) Bio-Security and Open Models
(01:22:56) Coordinating AI Development
(01:28:52) Outro
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Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast
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- The conversation delves into the ethics of agent-to-agent interactions, focusing on how AIs can prioritize human interests.
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