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JB Pritzker thinks AI could help us live to 100 — or threaten us like nukes
Illinois Governor Pritzker discusses AI's dual potential for progress and peril.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJB Pritzker (Governor, Illinois)
Why Elon Musk wants to sell you cell service
SpaceX's wireless ambitions challenge telcos, revealing a new frontier in connectivity.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsWalter Piecyk (telecom analyst, LightShed Partners)
Benn Jordan thinks the surveillance problem is much bigger than Flock
Investigative journalist Benn Jordan details the vast surveillance problem posed by license plate readers.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsBenn Jordan (musician, YouTuber, researcher, and investigative journalist)
Rewind: Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman’s ‘unconstrained’ relationship with the truth
Understand Sam Altman's public image and the stalled AI oversight debate.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRonan Farrow (investigative journalist, The New Yorker)
OpenAI has a Muse problem
Meta's free AI agent, Muse, challenges OpenAI, highlighting consumer product strength.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (senior AI reporter, The Verge)
Adam Schiff on AI regulation, free speech, and impeaching Trump one more time
Senator Schiff discusses regulating AI and political corruption.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsAdam Schiff (Senator, California)
The AI warnings are getting louder
AI safety warnings are intensifying; this episode explores the urgent concerns shaping the industry.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsShumita Basu (Apple News)
How Utah locals fought Kevin O'Leary's AI data center
AI's infrastructure boom faces local resistance, showing democracy can halt tech's unstoppable march.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJosh Dzieza (features writer, The Verge)
The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO
Atlassian's CEO explains how AI is changing enterprise software, not destroying it.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMike Cannon-Brookes (CEO, Atlassian)
Can Cloudflare save the web from AI?
Cloudflare's CEO explains how to fund the web when bots outnumber humans.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMatthew Prince (CEO, Cloudflare)
I have some questions for Mark Zuckerberg
Meta's AI strategy gets a critical look, prompting questions about Zuckerberg's public statements.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMark Zuckerberg (CEO, Meta), Alex Heath (Sources podcast)
Can CEO John Ternus find Apple's next big thing?
Apple's future hinges on its new CEO and foldable iPhone, revealing strategic shifts.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMark Gurman (Bloomberg)
Does AI need an antitrust exemption so it doesn't kill everyone????
Understand how antitrust law could shape AI safety rules and competition.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJonathan Kanter (former antitrust chief, U.S. Department of Justice)
Microsoft AI CEO says AI threats are real, and Anthropic is making it worse
Microsoft AI's CEO addresses urgent AI safety fears and the industry's pace.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMustafa Suleyman (CEO, Microsoft AI)
Adam Conover explains how YouTube ruined everything
Creator Adam Conover dissects YouTube's impact on online content and creator livelihoods.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsAdam Conover
Why the current tech backlash feels different
Understand the growing backlash against AI and Big Tech from a listener feedback perspective.
HostsNilay Patel
New York Governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should be ‘less evil’
NY Governor Hochul discusses AI's role in governance and regulation.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsKathy Hochul (Governor, New York), Zohran Mamdani (Mayor)
OpenAI's executive exodus has one big winner
OpenAI's power is consolidating under Greg Brockman amid executive departures.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (senior AI reporter, The Verge)
Welcome to the AI crisis in math
AI is rapidly mastering math, sparking an existential crisis and debate among mathematicians.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRobert Hart (AI reporter, The Verge)
It's about ethics in journalism, with Ben Smith
Semafor's editor-in-chief discusses media ethics and a profitable business model.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsBen Smith (editor-in-chief, Semafor)
Does Google even want to win in AI?
Google's AI shakeup raises questions about its commitment to winning the AI race.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (The Verge)
The left and right agree on one thing: no data centers
Local opposition to AI data centers unites left and right, impacting AI infrastructure plans.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsGaby Del Valle (policy reporter, The Verge)
Bluesky’s new CEO wants a big tent, not a bubble
Bluesky's new CEO outlines his vision for a more inclusive social platform.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsToni Schneider (CEO, Bluesky), Jay Graber (Chief Innovation Officer, Bluesky)
The end of the human internet
The internet is now mostly bots; this episode explores what that means for everyone.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsCharlie Warzel (journalist, The Atlantic)
Tariffs didn’t bring manufacturing jobs back to the US
Understand how tariffs and global chaos impact business and trade.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsEvan Smith (cofounder and CEO, Altana)
What Apple’s OpenAI lawsuit is really about
Apple's lawsuit reveals OpenAI's legal risks and future hardware ambitions.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (senior AI reporter, The Verge)
Dr. Jill Lepore on why the AI backlash is vital for the future
AI's systemic measurement risks dehumanization; Lepore explains the historical pattern.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJill Lepore (Author)
Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you
Proton's CTO explains how private companies balance user protection with government pressure.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsBart Butler (CTO, Proton)
Yes, even Nvidia's head of automotive is fighting for compute
Nvidia's auto chief discusses EV challenges and the debate over autonomous driving sensors.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsXinzhou Wu (Head of Automotive, Nvidia)
Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky
Understand the business behind internet stars and their growing empires.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsAli Berman (Co-Head of the Creators Division, United Talent Agency), Raina Penchansky (Co-Head of the Creators Division, United Talent Agency)
The CMO is a dying role, says Digitas' Amy Lanzi
Marketing's future is here: AI is reshaping brands, creators, and the CMO role.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsAmy Lanzi (CEO, Digitas North America)
Can Patreon fight fire with social media fire?
Patreon's CEO details survival strategies against AI's creator content disruption.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJack Conte (CEO, Patreon)
Who decides when AI is too dangerous?
Understand how AI models face government scrutiny and potential bans.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (senior AI reporter, The Verge)
Skydio CEO argues more drones will make us safer
Autonomous drones can enhance safety and create jobs, says Skydio's CEO.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsAdam Bry (CEO, Skydio)
Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on AI, the Met Gala & his secret succession plan
Media leaders must prepare for zero search traffic due to AI's impact on discovery.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRoger Lynch (CEO, Condé Nast)
Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your job
Microsoft's AI chief sees superintelligence nearing, but stresses business applications over job displacement.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMustafa Suleyman (CEO, Microsoft AI)
Elon Musk is steamrolling Wall Street to become a trillionaire
SpaceX's IPO bends rules, potentially making Musk a trillionaire.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRyan Mac (technology reporter, The New York Times)
AI is blowing up music. How should the Grammys handle it?
AI is reshaping music creation and awards, prompting a rethink of human artistry.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHarvey Mason Jr. (CEO, Recording Academy)
Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need CarPlay or buttons
Rivian's software chief details a future without CarPlay or buttons, driven by AI.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsWassym Bensaid (Chief Software Officer, Rivian)
How Sundar Pichai is rethinking Google for the AI era
Google's CEO details the company's AI pivot and future product direction.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsSundar Pichai (CEO, Google)
Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing
The Musk v. Altman lawsuit was more about personal grudges than AI's future.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsLiz Lopatto (reporter, The Verge)
Exclusive: Jonah Peretti explains why he sold BuzzFeed
BuzzFeed's CEO explains selling the company and pivoting to AI.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJonah Peretti (co-founder and CEO, BuzzFeed)
Joanna Stern is not a robot, but she lived with them
Explore the human side of AI automation with Joanna Stern's firsthand experiences and new book.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJoanna Stern (Author, New Things)
Rewind: How AI is fueling an existential crisis in education
Schools grapple with AI's impact on cheating and learning as students adopt new tools.
HostsNilay Patel
Dara Khosrowshahi on replacing Uber drivers — and himself — with AI
Uber's CEO discusses AI's impact on jobs and the company's future as an 'everything app'.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsDara Khosrowshahi (CEO, Uber)
How to win — or lose — Decoder
Understand how Decoder covers AI and what makes a successful podcast.
HostsNilay Patel
That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated than it looks
Understand how safety standards evolve with AI and connected tech.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJennifer Scanlon (CEO, UL Solutions)
THE PEOPLE DO NOT YEARN FOR AUTOMATION
Tech's AI obsession clashes with public unease. Understand the disconnect.
HostsNilay Patel
Canva's CEO on its big pivot to AI enterprise software
Canva's AI pivot challenges Adobe and AI startups for enterprise workspace dominance.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMelanie Perkins (CEO, Canva)
Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman's "unconstrained" relationship with the truth
Investigative reporting reveals concerns about Sam Altman's truthfulness and OpenAI's rise.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRonan Farrow (Investigative Reporter, The New Yorker)
The AI industry's existential race for profits
AI labs face a profit cliff; can they monetize before running out of cash?
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (senior AI reporter, The Verge)
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in space
Cisco's CEO explores building data centers in space to meet AI's insatiable demand for computing power.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsChuck Robbins (CEO, Cisco)
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?
Tech giants face legal reckoning over social media's harm to kids.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsCasey Newton (founder and editor, Platformer), Lauren Feiner (senior policy reporter, The Verge)
Okta's CEO is betting big on AI agent identity
Okta's CEO explains how AI forces identity management to evolve beyond people.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsTodd McKinnon (CEO, Okta)
Confronting the CEO of the AI company that impersonated me
AI impersonation sparks a tense interview about consent and AI's use of personal identities.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsShishir Mehrotra (CEO, Superhuman)
Paramount's $110 billion Warner Bros. gamble
Understand the massive Warner Bros. Discovery deal and its implications for the future of media.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRich Greenfield (media and entertainment analyst, LightShed Partners), Julia Alexander (Puck)
Yahoo CEO Jim Lanzone on reviving the web's homepage
Yahoo's CEO details the company's AI-driven comeback and its fight to regain relevance in the search market.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJim Lanzone (CEO, Yahoo)
Anthropic doesn't trust the Pentagon, and neither should you
Understand AI's privacy battle with the Pentagon through Anthropic's legal fight.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMike Masnick (founder and CEO, Techdirt)
Hasbro's CEO lets AI Peppa Pig help design toys
Hasbro's CEO details AI's role in toy design and navigating industry risks.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsChris Cocks (CEO, Hasbro)
Prediction markets want to be the news
Prediction markets are trying to become news, creating unsettling and potentially illegal situations.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsLiz Lopatto (senior reporter, The Verge)
Zillow's CEO on growth during a housing crisis
Zillow's CEO explains how technology and platform scale can transform the real estate industry.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJeremy Wacksman (CEO, Zillow)
Inside Xbox's executive shakeup
Microsoft's AI pivot reshapes Xbox leadership, signaling a new direction for gaming.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsTom Warren (senior editor, The Verge)
Hank Green lets loose on YouTube, billionaires, and algorithms
Hank Green explains why he turned his company into a nonprofit, a move with implications for creator-owned platforms.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHank Green (co-founder and former owner, Complexly)
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent
AI talent war heats up: top researchers chase impact over pay, reshaping frontier labs.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (senior AI reporter, The Verge)
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state
Ring's AI for safety sparks privacy debates, showing tech's double-edged sword.
HostsNilay Patel
The surprising case for AI judges
AI judges are here, and this former chief justice explains how they work and what it means for justice.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsBridget McCormack (President and CEO, American Arbitration Association)
Siemens CEO's mission to automate everything
Siemens CEO explains how automation reshapes jobs and global industry.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRoland Busch (CEO, Siemens)
Reality is losing the deepfake war
Distinguishing real from fake images is failing, threatening our shared reality.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJess Weatherbed (reporter, The Verge)
Docusign's CEO on the dangers of trusting AI to read, and write, your contracts
Docusign's CEO explains how AI is changing contract signing and understanding.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsAllan Thygesen (CEO, Docusign)
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'
Experian's tech chief explains how credit scores work and why they are essential for daily life.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsAlex Lintner (CEO of technology and software solutions, Experian)
Why nobody's stopping Grok
Grok's image generation controversy reveals AI's content moderation and legal challenges.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRiana Pfefferkorn (Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence)
Razer CEO on AI in game dev, Grok, and anime waifus
Razer's CEO discusses their AI anime hologram and gaming strategy, highlighting AI's controversial role.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMin-Liang Tan (CEO, Razer)
Dropout CEO Sam Reich on the business of subscription comedy
Learn how a comedy subscription service thrives by staying weird and building community.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsSam Reich (CEO, Dropout)
"All chaos and panic": Nilay answers your burning Decoder questions
AI's impact on information and decisions, explained by a top tech journalist.
HostsNilay Patel
Stack Overflow users don't trust AI. They're using it anyway
Stack Overflow's CEO shares how they are navigating AI's existential threat and integrating it.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsPrashanth Chandrasekar (CEO, Stack Overflow)
Sen. Ed Markey wants media companies to fight for the First Amendment
Senator Markey discusses First Amendment threats and the TikTok ban.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsEd Markey (Senator, Massachusetts)
Square's product chief on the death of the penny and the future of money
Square's product chief discusses AI, crypto, and the future of money.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsWillem Avé (head of product, Square)
The tiny team trying to keep AI from destroying everything
Anthropic's tiny AI safety team tackles inconvenient truths about AI's risks.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (senior AI reporter, The Verge)
IBM CEO Arvind Krishna says there is no AI bubble after all
IBM's CEO discusses enterprise AI and why he sees no AI bubble, offering a stable view.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsArvind Krishna (CEO, IBM)
The DoorDash Problem: How AI browsers are a huge threat to Amazon
AI browsers like Perplexity challenge Amazon's dominance, potentially reshaping online commerce.
HostsNilay Patel
Ring's Jamie Siminoff thinks AI can reduce crime
Ring's chief inventor sees AI drastically cutting crime, raising privacy questions.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJamie Siminoff (chief inventor, Ring)
The company at the heart of the AI bubble
CoreWeave's infrastructure deals reveal the hidden backbone of the AI boom.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsLiz Lopatto (senior reporter, The Verge)
Sir Tim Berners-Lee doesn’t think AI will destroy the web
Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee shares his views on AI's impact on the internet's future.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsSir Tim Berners-Lee (inventor of the World Wide Web)
How AI is fueling an existential crisis in education
AI challenges education's core purpose, forcing a rethink of learning and teaching.
HostsNilay Patel
Lyft CEO David Risher on paying drivers more and the shift to robotaxis
Lyft's CEO details paying drivers more and the move to robotaxis, exploring AI's impact.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsDavid Risher (CEO, Lyft)
How Silicon Valley enshittified the internet
Understand how online platforms degrade and what to do about it.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsCory Doctorow (author, internet activist, tech critic)
LexisNexis CEO says the AI law era is already here
AI is reshaping legal research infrastructure, according to the LexisNexis CEO.
HostsNilay Patel
Why GM will give you Gemini — but not CarPlay
GM's AI future: Gemini in cars, but no CarPlay. Listen for the strategy.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsMary Barra (CEO, General Motors), Sterling Anderson (Chief Product Officer, General Motors)
Zocdoc CEO: "Dr. Google is going to be replaced by Dr. AI"
AI is set to transform healthcare, potentially replacing 'Dr. Google' with AI-powered medical assistants.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsOliver Kharraz (CEO, Zocdoc)
The AI industry is at a major crossroads
AI video generation is here, sparking debates about creativity, copyright, and the industry's future.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsKanjun Qiu (CEO, Imbue)
Rivian CEO on CarPlay, Lidar, and affordable EVs
Rivian's CEO discusses EV pricing, competition, and future tech like CarPlay.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsRJ Scaringe (CEO, Rivian)
The good, the bad, and the future of AI agents
Understand the real progress and future of AI agents with Anthropic's lead.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsDavid Hershey (lead the applied AI team, Anthropic)
Ford CEO Jim Farley on China, tariffs, and the quest for a $30,000 EV
Ford's CEO discusses the tough path to affordable EVs and global market challenges.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsJim Farley (CEO, Ford)
How AI safety took a backseat to military money
AI firms prioritize military contracts over safety, risking dangerous AI deployments.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHeidy Khlaaf (chief AI scientist, AI Now Institute)
How chatbots — and their makers — are enabling AI psychosis
AI chatbots can cause mental health issues, even delusional spirals, for users.
HostsNilay PatelGuestsHayden Field (senior AI reporter, The Verge), Kashmir Hill (reporter, New York Times)
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