- Business
- Understand the hidden labor in AI adoption and learn strategies to improve AI integration and organizational effectiveness.
- Everyday users
- Discover why AI tools at work might not be delivering expected benefits and what "botsitting" means for your productivity.
This episode offers a practical look at AI adoption challenges and solutions from a leading researcher in the field.
Babysitting the Machine: Glean's Rebecca Hinds on the Hidden Human Labor of AI at Work
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The Cognitive Revolution podcast features Rebecca Hinds of Glean discussing the Work AI Index 2026 report. Despite 87% of workers using AI and reporting time savings, only 13% see significant organizational improvement. Hinds introduces "botsitting" and "botshitting" to explain this paradox, offering solutions like better AI integration and clearer policies.
Many people use AI at work and save time, but their companies aren't much better off. This episode explains why, introducing ideas like "botsitting" where people do extra work to help AI succeed. It matters because it shows how we can make AI truly helpful for everyone.
This episode unpacks the "productivity paradox" in AI adoption, revealing the hidden human effort required to make AI useful. It's for business leaders and workers grappling with AI integration, showing how companies like Google Gemini and Microsoft Copilot are indirectly affected by these real-world adoption challenges. Understanding "botsitting" is crucial as AI tools become more prevalent in enterprise settings, impacting how organizations measure and achieve AI-driven success.
- HostNathan Labenz
- GuestRebecca HindsHead of the Work AI Institute, Glean
- Episode Title: Babysitting the Machine: Glean's Rebecca Hinds on the Hidden Human Labor of AI at Work
- Show: The Cognitive Revolution
- Length: 106 minutes
- AI Usage: 87% of workers use AI
- Reported Time Savings: 13 hours per week
- Significant Organizational Improvement: 13%
Rebecca Hinds, author of "Your Best Meeting Ever" and Head of the Work AI Institute at Glean, breaks down the surprising findings from the new Work AI Index 2026 report surveying 6,000 workers. While 87% now use AI and report saving 13 hours per week, only 13% say their organization is performing significantly better—a paradox explained by two new concepts: "botsitting" (the hidden labor of making AI useful) and "botshitting" (delivering AI-generated work you can't defend). They discuss practical solutions including better-integrated AI systems, smarter AI detection policies, and aligning work to meaningful missions.
LINKS:
- Rebecca Hinds Personal Website
- Glean Work AI Institute
- Your Best Meeting Ever Book
- Glean Enterprise AI Platform
- Stanford Future of Work
- Glean Enterprise Graph
- Pangram Labs AI Detection
- OpenAI ChatGPT Product Page
- Anthropic Claude Product Page
- Google Gemini Product Page
- Microsoft 365 Copilot Page
- Glean AI Transformation 100
- Rebecca Hinds LinkedIn Profile
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) About the Episode
(03:22) Grounding AI adoption
(06:46) Methodology and Glean
(12:25) Productivity paradox emerges (Part 1)
(20:31) Sponsor: Claude
(22:22) Productivity paradox emerges (Part 2)
(25:36) Bot sitting burden
(34:00) Hidden time savings
(39:56) Meaning versus automation
(47:14) Enterprise graph potential
(53:13) Detecting bot slop
(01:00:32) Retention and incentives
(01:07:54) Transformation and mission
(01:20:06) AI teammate model
(01:26:01) Future organizational design
(01:32:31) Research and meetings
(01:41:43) Episode Outro
(01:45:07) Outro
PRODUCED BY:
- botsitting
- Rebecca Hinds
- the hidden human effort required to make AI tools work effectively
- botshitting
- Rebecca Hinds
- delivering AI-generated work that cannot be defended or is unreliable
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Questions people ask
- What is the Work AI Index 2026 report?
- It is a report surveying 6,000 workers about their use of AI at work and its impact on organizational performance.
- What are "botsitting" and "botshitting"?
- "Botsitting" refers to the hidden human labor needed to make AI useful, while "botshitting" describes delivering indefensible AI-generated work.
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