Subvolts take History shows how small, technologically advanced forces can topple empires, a lesson relevant to today's AI race. Oct 1, 2026
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This episode provides a historical deep dive into asymmetric conquest, offering valuable context for understanding AI's potential societal impact.

Si Sheppard – How did a few hundred Spanish soldiers topple two empires?

1 h 37 Interview Hosts: Dwarkesh Patel
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Summary

Dwarkesh Patel interviews military historian Si Sheppard on the Spanish conquest of the Aztec and Inca empires. Sheppard explains how a few hundred Spanish soldiers, often aided by native allies, toppled empires with millions of inhabitants. The discussion touches on the use of advanced technology and diplomatic cunning by an 'alien force' to overcome established orders, drawing parallels to modern AI developments.

Explained simply

This episode explores how a few hundred Spanish soldiers conquered vast empires like the Aztecs and Incas. It shows how advanced tools and smart diplomacy, even with fewer people, can overcome much larger, established powers. This historical event offers a surprising parallel to how AI might change the world.

Why listen

This episode offers a historical perspective on rapid, asymmetric conquest, providing context for understanding current AI advancements. It's for listeners interested in history, strategy, and the broader implications of technological and cultural shifts. The comparison to AI takeover highlights how seemingly insurmountable power imbalances can be overcome, a theme relevant to ongoing discussions about AI's societal impact and the strategies of frontier AI labs.

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  • HostDwarkesh Patel
  • GuestSi Sheppardmilitary historian
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Key facts
  • Guest: Si Sheppard
  • Show: Dwarkesh Podcast
  • Length: 97 minutes
  • Aztec conquest duration: 2 and a half years
  • Conquistador numbers vs. Aztec empire: hundreds vs. 6 million
  • Conquistador numbers vs. Inca empire: hundreds vs. 10 million
Show notes from Dwarkesh Patel

New episode with military historian Si Sheppard.

The conquests of the Aztec and Inca empires might be the most shocking events in human history.

Hernan Cortés and some hundreds of Conquistadors landed on a new continent they knew basically nothing about, and within 2 and a half years, conquered the 6 million strong Aztec empire.

Then, a decade later, Francisco Pizarro did the same thing to an Incan Empire of some 10 million inhabitants.

In both cases, the Conquistadors consistently beat native armies while being literally 100x (or even in some cases 1000x) outnumbered - and in many cases, did so without taking a single casualty.

And they did this with 99% of their military forces being made up of the very natives they were trying to subjugate.

We often forget how wild human history is. People talk about AI takeover as if it would be some crazy, unprecedented sci-fi outcome. But this would not be the first time an alien force whose motives the defenders barely understand use more advanced technology and diplomatic cunning to outmaneuver and then take over a much larger and long established existing order.

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Timestamps

(00:00:00) – Cortés’s conquest of the Aztecs

(00:22:39) – Pizarro’s conquest of the Inca

(00:26:59) – Explaining Conquistador military superiority

(00:34:39) – Could the natives have beat the Conquistadors?

(00:48:56) – The Aztec

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Conquistadors
Si Sheppard
Spanish soldiers and explorers who conquered lands in the Americas.
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Questions people ask

How did a few hundred Spanish soldiers conquer empires?
The episode discusses how Conquistadors used advanced technology and diplomatic cunning, often with significant support from native allies, to overcome much larger populations.
What is the connection between this history and AI?
The discussion draws a parallel between these historical conquests and potential AI takeover scenarios, where an 'alien force' with advanced capabilities can outmaneuver established orders.

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