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Google AI: Release Notes Episode Official · Google

Developing Google DeepMind's Thinking Models

1 h 04 Interview Hosts: Logan Kilpatrick
0:001:03:32

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Summary

Google AI: Release Notes host Logan Kilpatrick talks with Jack Rae, Principal Scientist at Google DeepMind, about developing "thinking models." They discuss practical uses, how more "thinking time" improves performance, and the importance of long context for these models. The episode also touches on developer feedback and the future of AI model evaluations.

Explained simply

This episode explains how Google builds AI that can "think" better. By giving AI more time to process information and allowing it to consider longer pieces of text, they make its answers more accurate and useful for various tasks.

Why listen

This episode offers insight into Google DeepMind's approach to building more capable AI models, specifically "thinking models." It's for AI researchers and developers interested in the practicalities of model development, including the impact of computational resources like "thinking time" and architectural features like long context. This work aligns with the broader industry trend of developing more sophisticated AI systems that can reason and plan, a key focus for all frontier labs.

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Key facts
  • Guest: Jack Rae, Principal Scientist at Google DeepMind
  • Show: Google AI: Release Notes
  • Length: 64 minutes
  • Key Concept 1: Thinking Models
  • Key Concept 2: Thinking Time Improves Answers
  • Key Concept 3: Long Context Is Key
Show notes from Google AI
Jack Rae, Principal Scientist at Google DeepMind, joins host Logan Kilpatrick for an in-depth discussion on the development of Google’s thinking models. Learn more about practical applications of thinking models, the impact of increased 'thinking time' on

Jack Rae, Principal Scientist at Google DeepMind, joins host Logan Kilpatrick for an in-depth discussion on the development of Google’s thinking models. Learn more about practical applications of thinking models, the impact of increased 'thinking time' on model performance and the key role of long context.

01:14 - Defining Thinking Models
03:40 - Use Cases for Thinking Models
07:52 - Thinking Time Improves Answers
09:57 - Rapid Thinking Progress
20:11 - Long Context Is Key
27:41 - Tools for Thinking Models
29:44 - Incorporating Developer Feedback
35:11 - The Strawberry Counting Problem
39:15 - Thinking Model Development Timeline
42:30 - Towards a GA Thinking Model
49:24 - Thinking Models Powering AI Agents
54:14 - The Future of AI Model Evals

Jargon decoded
Thinking Models
Jack Rae
AI systems designed to improve their reasoning and problem-solving abilities.
Thinking Time
Jack Rae
The amount of computational time an AI model spends processing information before giving an answer.
Long Context
Jack Rae
The ability of an AI model to process and remember information from very long pieces of text or data.
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Google AI: Release Notes · Google AI
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1 h 04
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Questions people ask

What are Google's "thinking models"?
The episode discusses the development of Google's "thinking models," which are AI systems designed to improve performance through increased "thinking time" and long context.
How does "thinking time" affect AI performance?
Increased "thinking time" is presented as a method that improves the quality of answers provided by AI models.

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