Subvolts take Google's AGI chief details the path to Gemini and the frontier AI race. Sep 3, 2026
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This episode features a top leader from Google DeepMind discussing their AGI strategy and Gemini's progress, offering direct insight into a major lab's frontier work.

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Koray Kavukcuoglu on frontier models, coding agents, and building AGI

27 min Interview Hosts: Logan Kilpatrick
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Summary

Google DeepMind's Koray Kavukcuoglu discusses the journey from early reinforcement learning to Gemini and the pursuit of AGI. He shares insights on Gemini 3.7 Flash's breakthrough, Gemini 4's pre-training, and the challenges of frontier AI research. The episode also touches on co-building AGI with users and the unique environment at Google for this work.

Explained simply

Google's top AI architect talks about how they are building super-smart computer systems called AGI. He explains the progress with their Gemini AI and why building these advanced tools is a big challenge that requires constant innovation.

Why listen

This episode offers a deep dive into the strategic thinking behind Google's AGI ambitions from a key leader. It's for AI researchers, engineers, and strategists interested in the practicalities of building frontier models and agents. Kavukcuoglu's perspective connects directly to the current race among labs like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta to achieve AGI, highlighting Google's approach to development and user collaboration.

On the mic
  • HostLogan Kilpatrick
  • GuestKoray KavukcuogluSVP and Chief AI Architect, Google DeepMind
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Key facts
  • Guest: Koray Kavukcuoglu, Google DeepMind SVP and Chief AI Architect
  • Show: Google AI: Release Notes
  • Length: 27 minutes
  • Topics Covered: Journey from DeepMind's early RL to Gemini, building AGI, Gemini 3.7 Flash breakthrough, Gemini 4 pre-training, frontier AI research, co-building AGI with users
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Show notes from Google AI
Google DeepMind SVP and Chief AI Architect Koray Kavukcuoglu reflects on the path from DeepMind's early reinforcement learning work to Gemini and what it means to build AGI at Google. Google DeepMind SVP and Chief AI Architect Koray Kavukcuoglu joins host Logan Kilpatrick to reflect on the journey from DeepMind's early reinforcement learning milestones to Gemini and what it means to build AGI at Google. Watch along and learn: * What made Gemini 3.7 Flash a breakthrough for engineers * The ambitions of the Gemini 4 pre-training run * What it takes to stay at the frontier of AI research * How co-building AGI with users shapes everything the Google DeepMind team does 00:00 Intro 00:24 From models to coding agents 03:07 Gemini 4 pre-training 04:08 Why the frontier is all that matters 06:38 Leading frontier AI at Google 08:53 Why there's no test for AGI 10:58 Early days at DeepMind 15:08 Atari vs. real-world ambiguity 17:18 20 years of deep learning 18:47 The reality of engineering hill climbs 21:05 Why Google is the place to build AGI 22:19 Parallel model development 23:34 The shift to agentic coding 24:57 What makes models more intelligent Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr2gdbvNFU
Jargon decoded
AGI
Koray Kavukcuoglu
Artificial General Intelligence, a hypothetical AI that can understand or learn any intellectual task that a human being can.
reinforcement learning
Koray Kavukcuoglu
A type of machine learning where an AI learns by trial and error, receiving rewards or penalties for its actions.
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Google AI: Release Notes · Google AI
Length
27 min
Companies
Google
Products
Gemini, Gemini 3.7 Flash, Gemini 4
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Questions people ask

What made Gemini 3.7 Flash a breakthrough?
The show notes state Gemini 3.7 Flash was a breakthrough for engineers, but do not detail why.
Why is Google the right place to build AGI?
Kavukcuoglu believes Google is the place to build AGI because of its resources and environment for frontier AI research and development.

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