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This episode features researchers from a leading AI lab discussing critical ethical considerations in AI development.

Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Ep 8 Episode Official · Google

Fair for all

33 min Interview Hosts: Hannah Fry
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Summary

Google DeepMind's "Fair for All" podcast episode, hosted by Hannah Fry, explores the ethical and social challenges of AI. DeepMind researchers Sasha Brown, William Isaac, Shakir Mohamed, Kevin Mckee, and Obum Ekeke discuss issues like racial and gender bias, AI misuse, and the necessity of diversity in technology development to ensure AI benefits everyone.

Explained simply

This podcast episode discusses how artificial intelligence can be unfair, like showing bias against certain groups. It explains why having diverse people build AI is important so that these tools work well and are safe for everyone, not just the people who make them.

Why listen

This episode is for anyone concerned about AI's societal impact. It highlights the critical need for ethical considerations and diverse perspectives in AI development, directly linking to ongoing efforts by Google Gemini and other frontier labs to build responsible AI. Listeners will understand the complexities of bias in AI and why inclusive design is paramount for technology that serves all communities.

On the mic
  • HostHannah Fry
  • GuestSasha BrownDeepMind
  • GuestWilliam IsaacDeepMind
  • GuestShakir MohamedDeepMind
  • GuestKevin MckeeDeepMind
  • GuestObum EkekeDeepMind
About
Key facts
  • Title: Fair for all
  • Show: Google DeepMind: The Podcast
  • Length: 33 minutes
  • Guests: Sasha Brown, William Isaac, Shakir Mohamed, Kevin Mckee, Obum Ekeke (DeepMind)
Show notes from Hannah Fry

AI needs to benefit everyone, not just those who build it. But fulfilling this promise requires careful thought before new technologies are built and released into the world. In this episode, Hannah delves into some of the most pressing and difficult ethical and social questions surrounding AI today. She explores complex issues like racial and gender bias and the misuse of AI technologies, and hears why diversity and representation is vital for building technology that works for all.

 

For questions or feedback on the series, message us on Twitter @DeepMind or email podcast@deepmind.com. 

 

Interviewees: DeepMind’s Sasha Brown, William Isaac, Shakir Mohamed, Kevin Mckee & Obum Ekeke

 

Credits

Presenter: Hannah Fry

Series Producer: Dan Hardoon

Production support: Jill Achineku

Sounds design: Emma Barnaby

Music composition: Eleni Shaw

Sound Engineer: Nigel Appleton

Editor: David Prest

Commissioned by DeepMind

 

Thank you to everyone who made this season possible! 

 

Further reading: 

What a machine learning tool that turns Obama white can (and can’t) tell us about AI bias, The Verge: https://www.theverge.com/21298762/face-depixelizer-ai-machine-learning-tool-pulse-stylegan-obama-bias

Tuskegee Syphilis Study, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study

Ethics & Society, DeepMind: https://deepmind.com/about/ethics-and-society

Row over AI that 'identifies gay faces', BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41188560

The Trevor Project: https://www.thetrevorproject.org/

AI takes root, helping farmers identify diseased plants, Google: https://www.blog.google/technology/ai/ai-takes-root-helping-farmers-identity-diseased-plants/

How Can You Use Technology to Support a Culture of Inclusion and Diversity?, myHRfuture: https://www.myhrfuture.com/blog/2019/7/16/how-can-you-use-technology-to-support-a-culture-of-inclusion-and-diversity

Scholarships at DeepMind: https://www.deepmind.com/scholarships

AI, Ain’t I a Woman? Joy Buolamwini, YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxuyfWoVV98

How to be Human in the Age of the Machine, Hannah Fry: https://royalsociety.org/grants-schemes-awards/book-prizes/science-book-prize/2018/hello-world/

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Jargon decoded
AI bias
Shakir Mohamed
When AI systems unfairly favor or discriminate against certain groups of people.
machine learning
Sasha Brown
A way for computers to learn from data without being explicitly programmed for every task.
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Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Hannah Fry
Length
33 min
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Google
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Questions people ask

What ethical issues does the podcast cover?
The episode delves into racial and gender bias in AI, as well as the potential misuse of AI technologies.
Why is diversity important in AI development?
Diversity and representation are vital for building technology that works for all people, ensuring AI benefits everyone.

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