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This episode features researchers from a leading AI lab discussing foundational work on cooperative AI, offering valuable insights into future AI development.

Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Ep 3 Episode Official · Google

Better together

35 min Interview Hosts: Hannah Fry
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Summary

Google DeepMind's podcast episode "Better Together" features host Hannah Fry discussing cooperative AI with researchers Thore Graepel, Kevin McKee, Doina Precup, and Laura Weidinger. They explore how cooperation underpins societal achievements and influences AI development, drawing parallels from BF Skinner's work to strategic games like Diplomacy. The conversation delves into the research behind creating AI systems that can collaborate effectively.

Explained simply

This podcast explores how AI can learn to work together, like people do. Researchers discuss how cooperation helps us build big things and how AI can be designed to collaborate for better results.

Why listen

This episode offers insight into the foundational research at Google DeepMind concerning cooperative AI. It's for anyone interested in how AI can be designed to work with humans and other AI systems, moving beyond purely competitive models. The discussion on cooperation connects directly to current frontier lab efforts in multi-agent systems and building more collaborative AI, relevant for developing AI that can solve complex, real-world problems.

On the mic
  • HostHannah Fry
  • GuestThore GraepelDeepMind
  • GuestKevin MckeeDeepMind
  • GuestDoina PrecupDeepMind
  • GuestLaura WeidingerDeepMind
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Key facts
  • Episode Title: Better together
  • Show: Google DeepMind: The Podcast
  • Length: 35 minutes
  • Interviewees: Thore Graepel, Kevin Mckee, Doina Precup & Laura Weidinger
  • Influences Mentioned: BF Skinner, Diplomacy
Show notes from Hannah Fry

Cooperation is at the heart of our society. Inventing the railway, giving birth to the Renaissance, and creating the Covid-19 vaccine all required people to combine efforts. But cooperation is so much more. It governs our education systems, healthcare, and food production. In this episode, Hannah meets the researchers working on cooperative AI, and hears about their work and influences from the famous American psychologist - and pigeon trainer -  BF Skinner to the strategic board game Diplomacy.

 

For questions or feedback on the series, message us on Twitter @DeepMind or email podcast@deepmind.com

 

Interviewees: DeepMind’s Thore Graepel, Kevin Mckee, Doina Precup & Laura Weidinger

 

Credits

Presenter: Hannah Fry

Series Producer: Dan Hardoon

Production support: Jill Achineku

Sounds design: Emma Barnaby

Music composition: Eleni Shaw

Sound Engineer: Nigel Appleton

Editor: David Prest

Commissioned by DeepMind

 

Thank you to everyone who made this season possible! 

 

Further reading: 

Machines must learn to find common ground, Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01170-0

Introduction to Reinforcement Learning, DeepMind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pWv7GOvuf0

B.F. Skinner, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner

The Tragedy of the Commons, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

Staving Off The Ultimate Tragedy Of The Commons, Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgebradt/2021/11/02/staving-off-the-ultimate-tragedy-of-the-commons-by-making-better-complex-decisions-cooperatively-in-glasgow/

Understanding Agent Cooperation, DeepMind: https://deepmind.com/blog/article/understanding-agent-cooperation

The emergence of complex cooperative agents, DeepMind: https://deepmind.com/blog/article/capture-the-flag-science

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Jargon decoded
cooperative AI
DeepMind researchers
AI that works well with people or other AI.
BF Skinner
Psychologist
A famous psychologist known for studying behavior and learning.
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Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Hannah Fry
Length
35 min
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Google
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Questions people ask

What is cooperative AI?
Cooperative AI involves designing artificial intelligence systems that can effectively work together with humans and other AI agents to achieve common goals.
What influences the research on cooperative AI?
The research draws inspiration from societal cooperation, the work of psychologist BF Skinner, and strategic board games like Diplomacy.

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