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Learn about the challenges and approaches to building robots that can learn physical skills autonomously.
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This episode offers a solid interview with DeepMind researchers on a core aspect of AI development: embodied intelligence.

Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Ep 4 Episode Official · Google

Let's get physical

34 min Interview Hosts: Hannah Fry
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Summary

Google DeepMind's podcast episode "Let's get physical" explores the necessity of a physical body for intelligence. Host Hannah Fry visits DeepMind's robotics lab, meeting robots learning new skills. The episode discusses training robots at home during lockdown, the prevalence of fake demonstrations, and the challenges of building a robotic football team, featuring insights from DeepMind researchers.

Explained simply

This podcast explores if AI needs a body to be smart. Researchers at DeepMind are building robots that learn skills on their own, like how to play games or move around. It shows why having a physical form helps AI understand and interact with the world better.

Why listen

This episode offers a look into the practical challenges of building embodied AI. It's for anyone interested in how AI learns to interact with the physical world, a crucial area for companies like Google Gemini and others developing advanced robotics. Understanding physical intelligence is key to creating more capable and lifelike AI systems, moving beyond purely digital models. The research discussed connects to the broader goal of general artificial intelligence.

On the mic
  • HostHannah Fry
  • GuestRaia HadsellDeepMind
  • GuestViorica PatrauceanDeepMind
  • GuestJan HumplikDeepMind
  • GuestAkhil RajuDeepMind
  • GuestDoina PrecupDeepMind
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Key facts
  • Episode Title: Let's get physical
  • Show: Google DeepMind: The Podcast
  • Length: 34 minutes
  • Interviewees: DeepMind’s Raia Hadsell, Viorica Patraucean, Jan Humplik, Akhil Raju & Doina Precup
Show notes from Hannah Fry

Do you need a body to have intelligence? And can one exist without the other? Hannah takes listeners behind the scenes of DeepMind's robotics lab in London where she meets robots that are trying to independently learn new skills, and explores why physical intelligence is a necessary part of intelligence. Along the way, she finds out how researchers trained their robots at home during lockdown, uncovers why so many robotics demonstrations are faking it, and what it takes to train a robotic football team. 

 

For questions or feedback on the series, message us on Twitter @DeepMind or email podcast@deepmind.com. 

 

Interviewees: DeepMind’s Raia Hadsell, Viorica Patraucean, Jan Humplik, Akhil Raju & Doina Precup

 

Credits

Presenter: Hannah Fry

Series Producer: Dan Hardoon

Production support: Jill Achineku

Sounds design: Emma Barnaby

Music composition: Eleni Shaw

Sound Engineer: Nigel Appleton

Editor: David Prest

Commissioned by DeepMind

 

Thank you to everyone who made this season possible! 

 

Further reading: 

Stacking our way to more general robots, DeepMind: https://deepmind.com/blog/article/stacking-our-way-to-more-general-robots

Researchers Propose Physical AI As Key To Lifelike Robots, Forbes: ​​https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonchandler/2020/11/11/researchers-propose-physical-ai-as-key-to-lifelike-robots/

The robots going where no human can, BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-41584738

The Robot Assault On Fukushima, WIRED: https://www.wired.com/story/fukushima-robot-cleanup/

Leaps, Bounds, and Backflips, Boston Dynamics: http://blog.bostondynamics.com/atlas-leaps-bounds-and-backflips

Now DeepMind is using AI to transform football, WIRED: 

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/deepmind-football-liverpool-ai

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Jargon decoded
physical intelligence
Hannah Fry
intelligence that comes from interacting with the real world through a body
embodied AI
Hannah Fry
AI that uses a physical body to learn and act in the world
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Google DeepMind: The Podcast · Hannah Fry
Length
34 min
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What is the main question explored in the podcast?
The episode questions whether a physical body is necessary for intelligence and if one can exist without the other.
What specific robotics projects are discussed?
The podcast covers robots learning new skills independently, training robots at home during lockdown, and the development of a robotic football team.

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