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Subvolts take Legendary game designer Jeff Kaplan shares insights on creating beloved games and launching a new title. Mar 11, 2026
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Learn from a veteran game designer's journey and insights into creating successful titles.
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Understand the challenges and opportunities in launching a new game from a seasoned industry professional.
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Hear from the creator of beloved games like World of Warcraft and Overwatch about their past and future projects.
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This is a solid interview with a highly respected figure in the gaming industry, offering valuable career and project insights.

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#493 – Jeff Kaplan: World of Warcraft, Overwatch, Blizzard, and Future of Gaming

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Summary

Lex Fridman interviews Jeff Kaplan, a renowned game designer behind World of Warcraft and Overwatch. Kaplan discusses his career at Blizzard and the upcoming launch of his new game, "The Legend of California," from his studio Kintsugiyama. The episode covers his journey in game development and his new venture.

Explained simply

Jeff Kaplan, who helped make games like World of Warcraft and Overwatch famous, talks about his career. He is now working on a new game called "The Legend of California" and shares what it is like to build games.

Why listen

This episode offers insights into the creative process and business of game development from a veteran designer. It is for aspiring game developers, fans of Blizzard's iconic titles, and those interested in the evolution of interactive entertainment. While not directly about frontier AI labs, it touches on how technology, including AI, might influence future game design and player experiences, a growing area of interest for companies like Google, Microsoft, and Meta.

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  • GuestJeff KaplanBlizzard
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Key facts
  • Guest: Jeff Kaplan
  • Show: Lex Fridman Podcast
  • Episode Title: #493 – Jeff Kaplan: World of Warcraft, Overwatch, Blizzard, and Future of Gaming
  • New Game: The Legend of California
  • New Studio: Kintsugiyama
Show notes from Lex Fridman

Jeff Kaplan is a legendary Blizzard game designer of World of Warcraft and Overwatch, now preparing to launch a new game, The Legend of California, from his new studio Kintsugiyama – available to wishlist on Steam today, with alpha later in March.
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The Legend of California (Steam Page): https://store.steampowered.com/app/2550530/The_Legend_of_California
Jeff’s Game Studio: https://www.kintsugiyama.com/

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OUTLINE:
(00:00) – Introduction
(02:24) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
(10:47) – Early games: Pac-Man, Zork, Doom, Quake
(25:12) – Writing career – 170 rejection letters
(40:45) – EverQuest obsession
(53:43) – Getting hired at Blizzard
(1:09:11) – Lowest point in Jeff’s life
(1:15:16) – One of Us
(1:19:33) – Early Blizzard culture
(1:39:15) – Building World of Warcraft
(1:56:59) – How WoW changed video games
(2:14:21) – Single-player vs Multi-player
(2:35:15) – How Blizzard made great video games
(3:01:04) – Online toxicity
(3:08:38) – Why Titan failed
(3:25:48) – Overwatch in six weeks
(3:52:46) – Best Overwatch heroes
(4:01:16) – The challenge of matchmaking
(4:04:40) – Rust
(4:15:01) – Why Jeff left Blizzard
(4:37:14) – Diablo IV
(4:38:42) – Getting back to making video games
(4:47:38) – The Legend of California
(5:01:23) – Greatest video game of all time
(5:09:30) – AI and future of video games

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Questions people ask

Who is Jeff Kaplan?
Jeff Kaplan is a legendary game designer known for his work on World of Warcraft and Overwatch at Blizzard.
What is Jeff Kaplan working on now?
He is preparing to launch a new game called "The Legend of California" from his new studio, Kintsugiyama.

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