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US vs. China: Why Trust Will Win the AI Race | GPT-5.2 & Anthropic IPO w/ Emad Mostaque, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin & Alexander Wissner-Gross | EP #214

2 h 01 Interview Hosts: Peter Diamandis
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Summary

Peter Diamandis hosts Moonshots EP #214, discussing the US vs. China AI race, GPT-5.2, and Anthropic's IPO. Guests include Emad Mostaque, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, and Alexander Wissner-Gross. They explore trust as a winning factor in AI development and potential market shifts.

Explained simply

This episode discusses how trust, not just speed, might decide if the US or China leads in AI. It also touches on new AI versions and big company events, which could change how we use AI.

Why listen

This episode delves into the geopolitical landscape of AI, contrasting US and Chinese approaches and highlighting the role of trust. It touches on future AI models like GPT-5.2 and significant industry events such as Anthropic's potential IPO. The discussion is relevant for investors, policymakers, and anyone interested in the strategic direction of AI development and its global implications.

On the mic
  • HostPeter Diamandis
  • GuestEmad Mostaquefounder, Intelligent Internet
  • GuestSalim Ismailfounder, OpenExO
  • GuestDave Blundinfounder & GP, Link Ventures
  • GuestAlexander Wissner-Grosscomputer scientist and founder, Reified
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Key facts
  • Episode Title: US vs. China: Why Trust Will Win the AI Race | GPT-5.2 & Anthropic IPO w/ Emad Mostaque, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin & Alexander Wissner-Gross | EP #214
  • Show: Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
  • Length: 121 minutes
  • Recorded Date: 2025-12-06
  • Guest Company (Emad Mostaque): Intelligent Internet
  • Guest Company (Salim Ismail): OpenExO
Show notes from PHD Ventures

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Emad Mostaque is the founder of Intelligent Internet ( https://www.ii.inc ) 


Read Emad’s Book: https://thelasteconomy.com  


Salim Ismail is the founder of OpenExO


Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures


Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified

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*Recorded on December 6th, 2025

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Jargon decoded
GPT-5.2
Alexander Wissner-Gross
A future version of OpenAI's language model.
Anthropic IPO
Emad Mostaque
When the AI company Anthropic sells shares to the public for the first time.
Published
Show
Moonshots with Peter Diamandis · PHD Ventures
Length
2 h 01
Companies
Anthropic, OpenAI
Products
GPT-5.2
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Questions people ask

Who are the guests on this episode?
The guests are Emad Mostaque (founder of Intelligent Internet), Salim Ismail (founder of OpenExO), Dave Blundin (founder & GP of Link Ventures), and Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross (computer scientist and founder of Reified).
What is the main theme of the discussion?
The episode focuses on the US vs. China AI race, exploring why trust will be a deciding factor, and touches on topics like GPT-5.2 and the Anthropic IPO.

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