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Hermes Agent: Agents that grow with you

52 min Interview Hosts: Daniel Whitenack, Chris Benson
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Summary

Practical AI hosts Daniel Whitenack and Chris Benson interview Jeffrey Quesnelle, co-founder and CTO of Nous Research, about Hermes Agent. They explore self-improving AI agents, recursive learning, and evolving AI tools. The discussion also touches on the distinction between models and harnesses, the changing role of developers, and what uniquely human qualities remain as AI advances.

Explained simply

This episode discusses new AI agents that can learn and improve over time, like a digital assistant that gets smarter. It explores how these evolving tools might change software development and what makes humans special as AI gets more capable.

Why listen

This episode delves into the cutting edge of open-source AI, specifically self-improving agents like Hermes. It's for developers and AI enthusiasts tracking the evolution of AI tools beyond static models. Quesnelle's insights offer a glimpse into how AI is becoming a collaborator, raising questions about human roles in an AI-accelerated future. This aligns with frontier labs' work on agentic systems and autonomous AI.

On the mic
  • HostDaniel Whitenack
  • HostChris Benson
  • GuestJeffrey Quesnelleco-founder and CTO, Nous Research
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Key facts
  • Guest: Jeffrey Quesnelle, Nous Research co-founder and CTO
  • Show: Practical AI
  • Length: 52 minutes
  • Topic: Hermes Agent, self-improving AI Agents, recursive learning systems
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Show notes from Daniel Whitenack and Chris Benson

Open Source AI is entering a new era, one shaped by self-improving AI Agents, recursive learning systems, and rapidly evolving AI Tools that blur the line between software and autonomous collaborators. In this episode, Daniel and Chris sit down with Nous Research co-founder and CTO Jeffrey Quesnelle to explore Hermes Agent. Along the way, they discuss models vs. harnesses, the changing role of developers, and one of the biggest questions facing the AI Future: what remains uniquely human as AI capabilities continue to accelerate?

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Jargon decoded
recursive learning systems
Jeffrey Quesnelle
AI systems that can learn from their own learning processes.
harnesses
Jeffrey Quesnelle
Frameworks or systems that use AI models.
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Practical AI · Daniel Whitenack and Chris Benson
Length
52 min
Companies
OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, Microsoft, Meta, xAI
Products
Hermes Agent
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Questions people ask

What is Hermes Agent?
Hermes Agent is an example of a self-improving AI agent that is part of a new era of recursive learning systems and evolving AI tools.
What is discussed regarding AI and humanity?
The episode discusses the changing role of developers and one of the biggest questions facing the AI future: what remains uniquely human as AI capabilities accelerate.

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