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A conversation with the CEO of Google DeepMind about AGI and AI deception provides direct insight into a leading lab's vision.
Best of Big Technology: Demis Hassabis On AGI, Deceptive AIs, Building a Virtual Cell
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Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, joins the Big Technology Podcast to discuss the path to artificial general intelligence (AGI). They explore timelines, building world models, AI creativity, and deceptive AI behaviors. The conversation also touches on Google's smart glasses plans and Hassabis's vision for a virtual cell, offering insights into AI's future.
This episode talks about when computers might become as smart as humans (AGI). It also covers how AI might try to trick people and Google's ideas for future tech like smart glasses. You'll understand more about AI's big goals and challenges.
This episode offers a direct look at Google DeepMind's AI strategy from its CEO. Listeners will learn about the ambitious pursuit of AGI, the technical challenges involved in creating world models, and the potential for AI deception. It's for anyone tracking AI's frontier, particularly how Google is positioning itself in the race for advanced AI capabilities and new hardware integrations.
- HostAlex Kantrowitz
- GuestDemis HassabisCEO, Google DeepMind
- Guest: Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind
- Show: Big Technology Podcast
- Length: 58 minutes
- Topics Covered: Path to AGI, building world models, AI creativity, deceptive AIs, Google's smart glasses, virtual cell vision
Demis Hassabis is the CEO of Google DeepMind. He joined Big Technology Podcast in early 2025 discuss the cutting edge of AI and where the research is heading. In this conversation, we cover the path to artificial general intelligence, how long it will take to get there, how to build world models, whether AIs can be creative, and how AIs are trying to deceive researchers. Stay tuned for the second half where we discuss Google's plan for smart glasses and Hassabis's vision for a virtual cell. Hit play for a fascinating discussion with an AI pioneer that will both break news and leave you deeply informed about the state of AI and its promising future.
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