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Learn about advanced techniques for robot locomotion and control using simulation and AI.
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Understand the current limitations and practical approaches to deploying autonomous robots in real-world applications.
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This episode provides a grounded look at robotics development challenges from a company leader.

Intelligent Robots in 2026: Are We There Yet? with Nikita Rudin - #760

1 h 07 Interview Hosts: Sam Charrington
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Summary

Nikita Rudin of Flexion Robotics joins The TWIML AI Podcast to discuss the challenges of deploying autonomous robots. The episode explores the gap between simulation and real-world robot performance, the complexities introduced by visual inputs, and the debate between end-to-end and modular robotic systems. Rudin details Flexion's approach using reinforcement learning, imitation learning, and pre-trained models for robot control.

Explained simply

Building robots that can act on their own is hard. This episode explains why making robots work perfectly in the real world, like they do in computer simulations, is tricky. It covers how new AI techniques help robots learn to move and do tasks.

Why listen

This episode offers insights into the practical hurdles of building truly autonomous robots, a key area for companies like Google Gemini and OpenAI. It's for AI researchers and robotics engineers. Understanding the sim2real gap and modular approaches is crucial as labs push for more capable embodied AI, moving beyond pure software to physical systems.

On the mic
  • HostSam Charrington
  • GuestNikita Rudinco-founder and CEO, Flexion Robotics
About
Key facts
  • Episode Title: Intelligent Robots in 2026: Are We There Yet? with Nikita Rudin - #760
  • Show: The TWIML AI Podcast
  • Length: 67 minutes
  • Guest Organization: Flexion Robotics
  • Key Concept: Sim2real gap in robot locomotion
  • Training Methods: Reinforcement learning, imitation learning, teleoperation data, VLMs, VLA models
Show notes from Sam Charrington

Today, we're joined by Nikita Rudin, co-founder and CEO of Flexion Robotics to discuss the gap between current robotic capabilities and what’s required to deploy fully autonomous robots in the real world. Nikita explains how reinforcement learning and simulation have driven rapid progress in robot locomotion—and why locomotion is still far from “solved.” We dig into the sim2real gap, and how adding visual inputs introduces noise and significantly complicates sim-to-real transfer. We also explore the debate between end-to-end models and modular approaches, and why separating locomotion, planning, and semantics remains a pragmatic approach today. Nikita also introduces the concept of "real-to-sim", which uses real-world data to refine simulation parameters for higher fidelity training, discusses how reinforcement learning, imitation learning, and teleoperation data are combined to train robust policies for both quadruped and humanoid robots, and introduces Flexion's hierarchical approach that utilizes pre-trained Vision-Language Models (VLMs) for high-level task orchestration with Vision-Language-Action (VLA) models and low-level whole-body trackers. Finally, Nikita shares the behind-the-scenes in humanoid robot demos, his take on reinforcement learning in simulation versus the real world, the nuances of reward tuning, and offers practical advice for researchers and practitioners looking to get started in robotics today.


The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/760.

Jargon decoded
sim2real gap
Nikita Rudin
The difference between how a robot performs in a computer simulation versus in the real world.
reinforcement learning
Nikita Rudin
A type of AI where a program learns by trying things and getting rewards or penalties.
Vision-Language Models (VLMs)
Nikita Rudin
AI that understands both images and text to perform tasks.
Vision-Language-Action (VLA) models
Nikita Rudin
AI that connects what it sees and understands to specific physical actions.
Published
Show
The TWIML AI Podcast · Sam Charrington
Length
1 h 07
Companies
Google, OpenAI
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Questions people ask

What is the sim2real gap in robotics?
The sim2real gap refers to the difficulty in transferring skills learned by robots in computer simulations to the real world, often due to unmodeled complexities.
How does Flexion Robotics train robots?
Flexion combines reinforcement learning, imitation learning, and teleoperation data, utilizing pre-trained Vision-Language Models for high-level tasks and Vision-Language-Action models for control.

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