Subvolts take Understand AI engineering's real impact and future challenges. Feb 17, 2026 - Developers
- Learn about practical engineering challenges and benchmarks that shape AI model development.
- Business
- Understand market dynamics, competitive landscapes, and the real drivers of AI progress.
This is a solid interview with an AI founder discussing core engineering challenges and market dynamics.
Evals, Feedback Loops, and the Engineering That Makes AI Work
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Martin Casado interviews Ankur Goyal on the AI + a16z podcast about where engineering truly impacts AI development. They discuss open versus closed source models, the rapid progress of Chinese AI, potential market saturation, and a benchmark challenging the idea of simple AI agents.
This episode explores what engineering work actually makes AI better, not just the flashy parts. It covers how different AI models are built and improved, and why some are advancing quickly. This matters because it helps us understand the real progress in AI.
This episode delves into the practical engineering challenges and strategic considerations in AI development. It's for AI practitioners, founders, and investors interested in the real drivers of progress beyond hype. The discussion on model cycles, competitive landscapes (including China's advancements), and agent design connects to current efforts at Google Gemini, OpenAI, and Meta AI as they refine their models and infrastructure.
- Hosta16z
- GuestAnkur Goyalfounder and CEO, Braintrust
- Guest: Ankur Goyal, founder and CEO of Braintrust
- Show: AI + a16z
- Length: 44 minutes
- Topics Covered: Open source vs closed source model cycle, Chinese models gaining ground, AI demand saturation, Bash vs SQL benchmark for agents.
Martin Casado speaks with Ankur Goyal, founder and CEO of Braintrust, about where engineering actually matters in AI and where it doesn't. They cover the open source vs closed source model cycle, why Chinese models are gaining ground faster than spending suggests, whether AI demand will eventually saturate, and the Bash vs SQL benchmark that challenges the "just give it a computer" approach to agents.
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- The episode discusses where engineering truly matters in AI development and where it does not, covering model cycles and agent design.
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- Martin Casado speaks with Ankur Goyal, founder and CEO of Braintrust.
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