Subvolts take AI agents need more than models; this episode explores the essential infrastructure that makes them work. Mar 12, 2026
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Learn about the essential infrastructure and primitives for building advanced AI agents beyond basic prompting.
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Understand how the AI agent stack is evolving, impacting the development of more capable and autonomous AI applications.
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This episode features a key leader from a prominent AI developer tools company discussing practical agent infrastructure.

The MAD Podcast Episode

Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain

47 min Interview Hosts: Matt Turck
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Summary

Harrison Chase, co-founder and CEO of LangChain, discusses the evolving AI agent stack on The MAD Podcast. He explains how agents are moving beyond simple prompts to handle planning, tool use, coding, and memory. The conversation focuses on the infrastructure and new primitives needed for agents to function effectively in real-world applications, shifting the frontier from the model itself to the surrounding system.

Explained simply

Imagine AI agents as smart assistants. This episode explains that the real magic isn't just the AI brain (the model), but the tools and systems built around it, like memory and planning abilities, that let them do complex tasks.

Why listen

This episode offers a deep dive into the practical infrastructure powering AI agents, a critical area as frontier labs like OpenAI and Google Gemini push agent capabilities. It's for developers and product leaders building AI applications who need to understand the 'stack' beyond just the large language model. Chase explains key concepts like harnesses, subagents, and memory, directly relevant to current industry efforts in creating more capable and autonomous AI systems.

On the mic
  • HostMatt Turck
  • GuestHarrison Chaseco-founder and CEO, LangChain
About
Key facts
  • Guest: Harrison Chase, co-founder and CEO of LangChain
  • Show: The MAD Podcast
  • Length: 47 minutes
  • Core Idea: The frontier is shifting from the model itself to the stack around the model.
  • Key Agent Capabilities: Planning, tool use, coding, file management, remembering over time.
Show notes from Matt Turck

Harrison Chase, co-founder and CEO of LangChain, joins the MAD Podcast to explain why everything in AI is getting rebuilt. As agents evolve from simple prompt-based systems into software that can plan, use tools, write code, manage files, and remember things over time, the real frontier is shifting from the model itself to the stack around the model. In this conversation, we go deep on harnesses, subagents, filesystems, sandboxes, observability, memory, and the new infrastructure required to make AI agents actually work in the real world.



(00:00) Intro - meet Harrison Chase

(01:32) What changed in agents over the last year

(03:57) Why coding agents are ahead

(06:26) Do models commoditize the framework layer?

(08:27) Harnesses, in plain English

(10:11) Why system prompts matter so much

(13:11) The upside — and downside — of subagents

(15:31) Why a useful agent needs a filesystem

(18:13) The core primitives of modern agents

(19:12) Skills: the new primitive

(20:19) What context compaction actually means

(23:02) How memory works in agents

(25:16) One mega-agent or many specialized agents?

(27:46) Has MCP won?

(29:38) Why agents need sandboxes

(32:35) How sandboxes help with security

(33:32) How Harrison Chase started LangChain

(37:24) LangChain vs LangGraph vs Deep Agents

(40:17) Why observability matters more for agents

(41:48) Evals, no-code, and continuous improvement

(44:41) What LangChain is building next

(45:29) Where the real moat in AI lives

Jargon decoded
harnesses
Harrison Chase
systems that help manage and orchestrate AI agents.
subagents
Harrison Chase
smaller AI agents that work together on a larger task.
context compaction
Harrison Chase
techniques to reduce the amount of information an AI needs to process at once.
observability
Harrison Chase
tools to monitor and understand how AI agents are performing.
Published
Show
The MAD Podcast · Matt Turck
Length
47 min
Companies
OpenAI, Google
Products
LangChain
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Questions people ask

What is the main shift in AI development discussed?
The frontier is shifting from the AI model itself to the stack of infrastructure built around the model, enabling agents to perform complex tasks.
What are some key components of the new AI agent stack?
Key components include harnesses, subagents, filesystems, sandboxes, observability, and memory systems.

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